Comments on: Leading a Raid is Tough http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html A World of Warcraft Blog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:06:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 By: Scotty Shepherd http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-41679 Scotty Shepherd Thu, 13 Nov 2008 03:31:26 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-41679 mmzwe7v9t77wpl1z mmzwe7v9t77wpl1z

]]> By: Kinless http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6309 Kinless Thu, 07 Dec 2006 23:57:48 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6309 Unfortunately I went all carebear to play with my wife and only have a 22 Tauren Druid and a 20 Troll Rogue left on PvP servers to transfer. That and I'm six time zones ahead of east coast time. Otherwise I'd be right over. Unfortunately I went all carebear to play with my wife and only have a 22 Tauren Druid and a 20 Troll Rogue left on PvP servers to transfer. That and I’m six time zones ahead of east coast time. Otherwise I’d be right over.

]]> By: Depac http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6283 Depac Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:21:01 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6283 delegation delegation delegation. It is really difficult for the main puller or main tank to lead a raid and keep up with all of the other stuff. We usually have 1 person pick up all the bijous and coins, 1 person skin, 1 person go for bloodvine. The bijou/coin person also handles the loot. He distributes the coins/bijous after the raid. The raid leader pretty much keeps the raid moving. We are a close knit guild so I guess there is a lot of trust but we can easily make it through zg in an evening. delegation delegation delegation. It is really difficult for the main puller or main tank to lead a raid and keep up with all of the other stuff. We usually have 1 person pick up all the bijous and coins, 1 person skin, 1 person go for bloodvine. The bijou/coin person also handles the loot. He distributes the coins/bijous after the raid. The raid leader pretty much keeps the raid moving. We are a close knit guild so I guess there is a lot of trust but we can easily make it through zg in an evening.

]]> By: Aeigelus http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6281 Aeigelus Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:29:18 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6281 Also, you should transfer to Burning Legion, Kinless :) You would make a great addition to Core :D Also, you should transfer to Burning Legion, Kinless :) You would make a great addition to Core :D

]]> By: Aeigelus http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6280 Aeigelus Thu, 07 Dec 2006 15:28:45 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6280 Jaed: Why would you say such things about yourself? Tisk tisk :) Kinless: Holy crap that is a great post. Yeah, I had thought about distributing it up like this as well. One of my main problems, is I don't know every strategy from every aspect, so I am going to have to ask for the most help for that. Hell, until I leveled my shaman, I didn't know most of the curses/diseases/poisons from most of the mobs in game, because my pet was always the one to soak those up :D Jaed: Why would you say such things about yourself? Tisk tisk :)

Kinless: Holy crap that is a great post. Yeah, I had thought about distributing it up like this as well. One of my main problems, is I don’t know every strategy from every aspect, so I am going to have to ask for the most help for that. Hell, until I leveled my shaman, I didn’t know most of the curses/diseases/poisons from most of the mobs in game, because my pet was always the one to soak those up :D

]]> By: Kinless http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6275 Kinless Thu, 07 Dec 2006 12:06:29 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6275 Job distribution in raids: Here's how we did it through BWL... Our Guild Master really did very little in our raids except swing the big stick of authority, mute folks when vent went silly, and heard out the complaints and grievances. The Class Leaders were responsible for their classmates. (Shamans, Priests, Hunters, etc., each had their own leadership for invites, conflict resolution, taskings, etc.) Class Leaders also got Alternate Raid Leader so they could invite to the raid. The Raid Leader was the one most experienced with the instance. Typically the Main Tank i.e. Fulcrum of the Effort. After all everything happens after he starts, and occurs around him, or behind him. The Raid Leader does the markups for sheep duty, shackles, etc. He doesn't have to be the Main Tank, but ours always were. We had a designated puller. The Hunter most experienced with the instance we were in. And no other. He had the patrol paths down, knew when he tagged a boss right, and when to feign when he didn't, etc. Master Looter was a job that we officers rolled on. Winner (or Loser!) got the job. Some ML's are lucky for one class, others for BOPs. I enjoyed that job. Typically somebody else was in charge of the bids and the DKP. We had some system admin types who had our DKP system automated. You'll want a designated miner for the ore in MC, skinner in UBRS, etc. You'd think in the above the Guild Master had the least to do. I don't think so. Keeping 40+ people motivated, committed, and coordinated is a job and a half all on it's own. Get some officers to handle the loot, designate a hunter your Main Puller, designate Class Leaders (who are also officers), and keeping it all together will be your job. I miss raiding because pulling off those achievements really felt good. Job distribution in raids: Here’s how we did it through BWL…

Our Guild Master really did very little in our raids except swing the big stick of authority, mute folks when vent went silly, and heard out the complaints and grievances.

The Class Leaders were responsible for their classmates. (Shamans, Priests, Hunters, etc., each had their own leadership for invites, conflict resolution, taskings, etc.) Class Leaders also got Alternate Raid Leader so they could invite to the raid.

The Raid Leader was the one most experienced with the instance. Typically the Main Tank i.e. Fulcrum of the Effort. After all everything happens after he starts, and occurs around him, or behind him.

The Raid Leader does the markups for sheep duty, shackles, etc. He doesn’t have to be the Main Tank, but ours always were.

We had a designated puller. The Hunter most experienced with the instance we were in. And no other. He had the patrol paths down, knew when he tagged a boss right, and when to feign when he didn’t, etc.

Master Looter was a job that we officers rolled on. Winner (or Loser!) got the job. Some ML’s are lucky for one class, others for BOPs. I enjoyed that job.

Typically somebody else was in charge of the bids and the DKP. We had some system admin types who had our DKP system automated.

You’ll want a designated miner for the ore in MC, skinner in UBRS, etc.

You’d think in the above the Guild Master had the least to do. I don’t think so. Keeping 40+ people motivated, committed, and coordinated is a job and a half all on it’s own.

Get some officers to handle the loot, designate a hunter your Main Puller, designate Class Leaders (who are also officers), and keeping it all together will be your job.

I miss raiding because pulling off those achievements really felt good.

]]> By: jaed http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6254 jaed Thu, 07 Dec 2006 00:49:02 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6254 jaed sucks, =))) jaed sucks, =)))

]]> By: WoG http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6253 WoG Wed, 06 Dec 2006 20:33:33 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6253 Wow - 3 hours for your first raid lead, and you downed a majority of ZG - that's great! Keep up the good work. Wow - 3 hours for your first raid lead, and you downed a majority of ZG - that’s great! Keep up the good work.

]]> By: Aeigelus http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6250 Aeigelus Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:42:33 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6250 Deadr: Ha! Yeah, dunno if i will ever consider myself "experienced" :) If anything, I will just delegate power to others muahahahaha. Ogre: Well, DKP is still a friggin nuisance. Piece of crap RaidTracker... But yeah, I don't know how you did it in MC/BWL/AQ etc... Deadr: Ha! Yeah, dunno if i will ever consider myself “experienced” :) If anything, I will just delegate power to others muahahahaha.

Ogre: Well, DKP is still a friggin nuisance. Piece of crap RaidTracker… But yeah, I don’t know how you did it in MC/BWL/AQ etc…

]]> By: Ogre http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6244 Ogre Wed, 06 Dec 2006 04:23:41 +0000 http://www.aeigelus.com/2006/12/leading-a-raid-is-tough.html#comment-6244 Yeah, raid leading is preeety hard, huh? And all this time you thought DKP was a nuisance. Change 20 mature players into 40 mismatched prepubescent addicts and you have a REAL guild. Yeah, raid leading is preeety hard, huh?

And all this time you thought DKP was a nuisance. Change 20 mature players into 40 mismatched prepubescent addicts and you have a REAL guild.

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